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When Medicare is a Primary Insurance for the patient, the patient's part responsibility (coinsurance/deductible) normally crosses over to its secondary insurance for secondary coverage (if Medicare has the secondary insurance on file or if its set up to cross over based on the patient's coordination of benefits).
As you will notice on your Remittance advise, "Claim Information forwarded to: (insurance company here) Meaning, Medicare will forward the information to the secondary insurance. If not, try to find out if there is a secondary insurance for the patient, then you need to send the paper claim (using the HCFA 1500 form for Office/Provider/Professional Claims) to the secondary and attach a copy of the Medicare EOB (explanation of benefits). If your Practice Software can bill secondary to Medicare electronically, then that's great! Send them by electronic. If your practice management software is capable of doing this by electronic submission with attached copy of the EOB - much better!After you submit the claim to the secondary insurance, the secondary insurance EOB will then tell you if there is a copay being applied towards the patient being a secondary insurance after Medicare.You will then obviously collect that copay based on your contract with the secondary insurance company (and this is also based on the patient's contract with his/her secondary insurance). Medicare patients are mostly aware of their responsibility after the secondary insurance picks up. Bottom line here: (1) Medicare must process (not deny or reject!) the claim first being the primary; (2) Secondary insurance must then process the claim with Medicare's claim information; (3) Then, if there is a copay being applied towards the patient's responsibility -- you have to bill your patient for that copay!But honestly, I do not collect secondary insurance copay not until the secondary insurance had processed the claim (after Medicare's allowance!). WHY? because it is possible that the patient may no longer have an active policy (at the time of service) with the secondary insurance, or maybe, there is no more copay because the patient had met his/her out of pocket limit. So to streamline this issue (of which not all offices are doing it) - you must always check benefits and eligibility for your patient's primary, secondary or even tertiary insurance coverage!It may be a lot of work too, but what I do is that, when I am billing the patient a copay (from the secondary insurance's determination and per the EOB) or even for their coinsurance! I do my best to attach a copy of the EOB on the statement. That way, the patient has a copy of the said EOB and he/she will understand why I am billing him/her.
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Pinky Maniri-Pescasio
Founder and CEO of GoHealthcare Practice Solutions. She is after-sought National Speaker in Healthcare. She speaks at select medical conferences and association events including at Beckers' Healthcare and PainWeek.
Pinky Maniri-Pescasio, MSc, CRCR, CSAPM, CSPPM, CSBI, CSPR, CSAF, Certified in A.I. Governance is a nationally recognized leader in Revenue Cycle Management, Utilization Management, and Healthcare AI Governance with over 28 years of experience navigating Medicare, CMS regulations, and payer strategies. As the founder of GoHealthcare Practice Solutions, LLC, she partners with pain management practices, ASCs, and specialty groups across the U.S. to optimize reimbursement, strengthen compliance, and lead transformative revenue cycle operations. Known for her 98% approval rate in prior authorizations and deep command of clinical documentation standards, Pinky is also a Certified Specialist in Healthcare AI Governance and a trusted voice on CMS innovation models, value-based care, and policy trends. She regularly speaks at national conferences, including PAINWeek and OMA, and works closely with physicians, CFOs, and administrators to future-proof their practices. Current HFMA Professional Expertise Credentials: HFMA Certified Specialist in Physician Practice Management (CSPPM) HFMA Certified Specialist in Revenue Cycle Management (CRCR) HFMA Certified Specialist Payment & Reimbursement (CSPR) HFMA Certified Specialist in Business Intelligence (CSBI) search hereArchives
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